Well since we have been talking the gender gap and some discriminations against men I figured I would talk about a few things I've been noticing. First of all why do some places like bars or clubs have ladies night? Why can the never have mens night? I know the marketing strategy is to get women to come in and the men will follow but jeezzze can we have one night a month? Then why is it that some places charge women half the price men do to get in? Again I know its a marketing strategy but a discount for men once in a while would also be nice. The strategy is to get men to chase the women and it works. Men go to these places to find single women, end up spending tons of cash and 90% of the time go home single. Some women go to these places on purpose with absolutley no money and get drunk and have a great time for free thanks to all us stupid men. Do women feel bad accepting drinks from men even when they know they are not at all interested in them? My guess would be that most of them dont! Us men are pretty stupid and might do this 2 or 3 times a night. This ends up getting quite expensive.
Wekk after that I can now get into my gender moment. Last Saturday I went out with a few friends to a place where there was no cover for girls plus discounted drinks. The guys of course had to pay $10 to get in a and full price for drinks. So we get in and sit down and one of my friends says a girl across the bar keeps staring at him. I told him to go over and talk to her because he thought she was pretty but he's not that bold to approach just anyone. After a while in there he still notices her staring and finally he goes to talk to her. They talked for quite a while and bought her food and drinks. Well he ended up being right and this girl really was interested in him. So my question would be why is it that she felt she couldnt approach him. I asked her and she said that when she's interested in someone she will just make sure she makes eye contact more often and sooner or later the man will realize she's interested. So i was wondering if these tactics are used by more females. I dont know the answer but wuld like to know. If a guy likes a girl he usually just approaches her and in a few cases I've seen the girl approach the guy but not many. Well I guess that wuld be my gender moment of the week. Not that exciting I know but its been busy.
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George,
ReplyDeleteIt seems as though you had the answers to most of your questions. The "Ladies Night" strategy is definitely in place to attract men. Most club owners have the goal to get in 60% women and 40% men. They know by advertising Ladies night, they will definitely attract women and by doing so, will ultimately attract men. I suppose they figure if they held "Gentleman's night", they may not get the same response from ladies. I'm sure this is frustrating to guys, although unfortunately it's worked this way at clubs for a long time and while it continues to keep the business going, it will most likely remain in effect.
With regards to your second question, most ladies are taught not to approach a guy first. Our mothers have instilled values that go something like, "making the first move will show that you're...easy, desperate, etc.". Therefore, while a lot of girls don't necessarily carry out the values of their moms, this seems to be one thing that sticks. Another "old school tradition" that seems to still be around most of the time is guys picking up the tab for ladies. Therefore, it is in line when a guy buys a girl a drink or picks up her food tab. Perhaps there are times when its done to "use" the guy, although many times it's just the expectation ladies have since this is how they were taught and/or raised. Hang in there...I'm not sure things are going to change any time soon, although you always have the power to make your own decisions.
Interesting that you noticed this exchange. We will be discussing this nonverbal ritual in my interpersonal class this fall. It is a nonverbal exchange that happens between males and females...but, there are different nv's that occur...the bottom line is that when a guy finally approaches, it looks like he is making the first move, but, there were nonverbal signals that were first initiated by the woman...
ReplyDeleteI don't think it is necessarily fair that women get into clubs for free and then also do not usually have to pay for their drinks either.... but I don't really want to challenge things. I haven't paid for a drink in a fair amount of time but my boyfriend is in his career and although he's not RICH he makes a lot, lot more money than I do so I don't feel too bad. I do think its funny though that guys buy drinks in the hopes that doing so will get them... we'll say a date... one of my best friends won't take a drink that a man she doesn't know bought for her because she feels like he's not just buying the drink he's making an offer on HER and in a sense he is. I KNOW its just guys trying to be nice. Its cute and sweet and polite. I like it but I also see my friends point. Also, if we accept the drink I have felt in the past that men feel like we owe them something and if we don't accept it we're called bitches.
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